I started watching the “creation debate” last night. I got through the 30-minute arguments and rebuttals and switched to Netflix (the first episode of Suits is really good, I can’t wait to watch more). Really I’m just not interested in the whole thing. I know what I believe, and what I don’t believe, and I don’t feel I need to make a big deal of it.
So why do I now have a few hundred words written about the debate? Because I feel my opinions and observations are unique. Looking at my Facebook feed I think I’m the only atheist/nontheist I know that isn’t high-fiving and chest-thumping about a debate “victory” last night. Indeed both sides are patting themselves on the back this morning for “winning” the debate. Small rant: since when is a debate a win/lose sporting event?
Truthfully – I felt neither side was presenting anything that would sway the believers of the opposing views.
I had to roll my eyes when Ham kept diverging off into fire and brimstone scare tactics. As if keeping Christianity out of science classrooms is really going to have any effect on the moral salvation of the world. Oh but I forgot; it’s just a small part of a large secular conspiracy. Interesting how his movement only wants to see the Christian/Jewish creation theory taught alongside evolution. If they want to make points about an agenda perhaps they should be asking for ALL the creation myths to be taught in science class, and not just their preferred one.
Bill Nye was all over the place presenting (albeit good) science tidbits that I feel were probably “information overload” for anyone on the other side of the debate or even on the fence.
I’ll also say that his slides were poorly done compared to Ham – and though I know it’s really irrelevant to the argument I am an attention-to-detail fan.
Ham’s side pleaded that (his type of) Christians “love science” – which seems to be true when science is used to invent things, but not when it explains things. He kept trying to break science apart into ‘historical’ and ‘observational’ science and I think Nye would have done better to put more focus on rebutting that and talking about science as a process, rather than so many specific examples of evidence that refute a literal interpretation of the bible. Showing a young-earth creationist how science pokes holes in their cherished beliefs is not going to be well-received. It comes off as arrogant.
Y’all obviously know what side of the fence I’m on when it comes to teaching religion in a science class, and I’m happy that most of my Christian friends and family can agree with me on at least that point. Outside of science class everyone is free to worship and pray and think and believe whatever you want, and I hope you continue to allow me the same luxury.
Let me also say that I’m pleased that these topics rarely come up in any conversations I have with my friends or family, regardless of their religious beliefs. Tolerance and good manners make me happy.
PS – I don’t eat babies, but I do nibble their fat little baby toes.